Darién Gap is one of the most difficult areas on earth to travel and it is considered to be extremely dangerous. This documentary film includes rare footage from a speedboat ride from Turbo to Capurganá, border villages, and the jungle on the both sides of the border between Panama and Colombia. There are interviews of the two travellers who crossed the Darién Gap, one from Switzerland and another from Peru. Crossing the Darién Gap (40 minutes, produced by Päivi & Santeri in 2013) has English, Spanish and Finnish subtitles.
English subtitles.
Spanish subtitles.
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Transcript
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Päivi & Santeri
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A Colombian paramilitary group has reportedly
kidnapped three Americans in the Darién Gap
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We strongly advise you not to travel to the Darién
Gap because of the risk of violent criminal activity
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Drug-running Colombian rebels are using the
dense, lawless jungle to smuggle cocaine
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Colombian terrorist groups, drug traffickers and other
criminals throughout the Panama-Colombia border
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Foreign nationals have been the victims
of violent crimes, kidnapping and murder
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Crossing the Darién Gap
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Colombia
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Darién Gap
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Panama
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Capurganá, Colombia
March 14, 2013
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Is this your first time in Colombia?
Yes, this is my first trip to Colombia.
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I think I will come back again.
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Do you like it here?
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Yes, there are a lot of nice
and beautiful places here.
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How do you feel
about this place?
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It's a quiet place, small
village, really nice.
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People are not very very friendly.
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But it is an isolated
place and if you want to
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relax a couple days
it is perfect here.
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Immigration? It is not here.
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Are you going straight to somewhere?
Umm...
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Because the immigration is not open
now because there is no electricity.
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They can't stamp your
passport without electricity.
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Breakfast US $4
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What was your route from Peru to Capurganá?
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My trip was quite
monumental I would say.
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I left from Lima and went to Tumbes.
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I was at the beach at the border.
Punta Sal was very beautiful.
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I wanted to go back
there one day.
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Is it in Peru?
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Yes, it is at the border in
Tumbes in Northern Peru.
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Very beautiful and also the beaches.
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From there I went
Guayaquil, Ecuador, then
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to Quito and to the
Colombian border.
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From the Colombian border I went
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to Medellín, Turbo
and Capurganá.
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How did you come here?
By speedboat and bus from Medellín.
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OK, so you took a bus from Medellín
and then where did you go?
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To Turbo. And then by
speedboat 2.5 hours.
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How was the ride?
Bumby.
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A little bit, yeah.
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I came here by boat.
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I realised that it was
really a boat, not a bus.
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Were you seasick?
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No, fortunately I took
some precautions.
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Did you take something?
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No, I just relaxed and
tried to enjoy the ride.
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The trip took a bit over 2 hours.
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I am not used to sea.
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Was there a lot of water flying?
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Yes, a lot of water and
jumping up and down.
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But the trip went fine
and we enjoyed it.
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Some people were yelling.
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Soon I was anxiously
waiting for the arrival.
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When we were in Turbo,
it was funny,
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we were just shooting
there in the harbour.
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And then they got really
irritated that you
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can't shoot here. And
then the immigration came
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and they took us to
some place and checked
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our passports and
then they were asking
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all the time that are
you journalists.
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Are you journalists?
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I think I have seen you.
OK, you saw us shooting there?
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Yeah.
OK, yeah, so it was really funny.
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Then I was asking them that why
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are you so afraid
of journalists.
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"Just show me your passport."
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"I need to check it for
your own safety."
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Then we showed them, he
checked them, alright, and
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then he asked once more:
"Are you journalists?"
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Once in your lifetime to
be in a city called Turbo.
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Yeah, it sounds like funny name.
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Turbo. Sounds like some
kind of drug or something.
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It's a strange city, noisy.
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It was actually the only
Colombian city we have
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visited so far where the tap
water was not drinkable.
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It was so bad that it looked like porridge.
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Turbo, Colombia
March 10-13, 2013
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We went yesterday for a little walk.
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We walked from Capurganá, from here,
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all the way to Panama.
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How was the trail,
how did you like it?
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Nice, a bit muddy,
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like always in the jungle.
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The hike was a bit tedious
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but when we arrived,
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I changed my mind.
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It was worth all the trouble.
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It was fabulous.
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I have to admit that it
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was indeed worthwhile.
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As I said, my trip
was monumental.
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The whole journey.
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But coming here,
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yes, it was definitely
worth the trouble.
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The jungle is so
beautiful and peaceful.
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It rains 3 times a day or so and
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that path gets really
muddy when it's raining.
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It is something you
can walk without
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backpack and a lot of stuff.
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But if you have all
your gear with you,
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then it it's not so fun anymore
because it's a slippery mudslide.
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Scenic place
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Of course there are some problems
in touristy place like this.
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Yesterday we took a
boat to Sapzurro.
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There was a small
incident with the price.
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Yes, I understand that as
a Latin American person.
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You expect these kind
of things to happen.
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Many times you have to adapt.
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These things happen.
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Some people take
advantage of others.
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Like yesterday,
there was a price
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for the trip that was
changed afterwards.
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They tell you no, they try
to take advantage of you.
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You always see that.
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This means that you
need to be prepared.
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Keep things clear and
always check the price.
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It is settled.
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When someone changes
the rules on the way,
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what can you do?
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You will have to agree
so that nobody loses.
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You have to meet halfway
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so that you don't
lose and I don't lose.
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Solomon's judgement.
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You have travelled with
Markus who is from Europe.
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Does he have more problems than
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you because you speak Spanish?
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Yes, yes.
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There is a big difference.
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You see it in many places.
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I see it right away.
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In prices, when talking with
people, when buying something.
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When you want to do something,
everything changes.
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They see you with a
different person.
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I do the negotiations because
I speak the language.
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So we try to get
the right price.
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Their prices change
according to the customer.
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They take advantage of you.
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It is discrimination in that sense.
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It seems to me that you
often feel discriminated.
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Because of your skin colour, the
prices change straight away.
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It is just another form
of discrimination
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even if they think you have
more money than they have.
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I don't like it but there
is a big difference.
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Does that happen only in Colombia?
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No, it is everywhere here,
also in Peru and Bolivia.
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What is the image of Colombia
and Colombians in Peru?
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The image I had was that
Colombia is dangerous.
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There are guerrillas
that make it dangerous.
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Thanks to this, I was prepared.
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There is a lot of policemen and
soldiers around.
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They guarantee peaceful travel.
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When you are not there
you hear rumours.
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But you need to see it yourself.
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You might want to return.
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Is it dangerous here?
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At the moment no except the sea.
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Fortunately not.
Everything is fine.
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It's an inner peace, you
have to transgress limits.
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When you are relaxed,
you are not thinking
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all the time what bad
could happen to you.
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Something can always happen, but...
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Have you felt unsafe here,
are there some dangers?
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No, not at all.
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Is there anything
negative in Colombia that
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you have experienced
during your travel?
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Prices.
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Yes, prices, they are high.
Colombia is very expensive.
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That is the only negative thing.
Prices, travel costs.
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Accommodation, food?
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No, I can manage with
food and accommodation
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but the travel costs
are out of proportion.
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Of top of everything else,
you have to pay that, too.
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This is the only
negative, nothing else.
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Panama
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Welcome to Panama
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At the Colombia-Panama border
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there was a little shack
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where they checked passports and
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wrote down passport
numbers and names.
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We asked them about
walking all the way from
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La Miel, the border city
on the Panaman side,
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to Puerto Obaldia where there
is airport and transportation.
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And the border guard
told that there can be
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some gansters or some
drug smugglers or
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bad guys or at least there
has been at some point.
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Or at least everybody is
forbidden to walk there.
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On the Colombian side everything has
been very safe and nothing there,
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also on Panama side what we saw
there, there was nothing really.
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The only guns were in the hands of border
guards. Everybody else was pretty relaxed,
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just some local indigenous
people and that's all.
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Yeah.
Didn't feel so dangerous.
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But anyway, maybe...
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I think they want to
promote their (boat)trips.
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Yeah, maybe that's the reason.
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In the viewing platform we
saw an American woman who
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was travelling with a local
guide and she had been
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hiking to the South
and she told that
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there are paths to the South
so it might be possible
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to walk all the way from
the South to Capurganá.
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Not to take that speedboat.
Oh really?
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According to her, yes.
Her guide told that you
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can't walk all the
way on the beach.
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You will have to go at some point
to the inland but there are paths.
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So if you can use
your map and compass
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and know a little bit how
to survive in the jungle
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it should be possible.
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Or if you hire a guide like she did.
She was from New York.
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La Miel, Panama
March 15, 2013
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Taking a flight
sounds stupid because
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Panama is near and
Colombia is its neighbour.
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So why not try something else?
Then we checked sail boats.
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Crazy expensive and we
drink a lot of water
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so we can't carry enough
water with us there.
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Then we found this route.
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From Turbo speedboat
and then walking.
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Yes, coming here was
worth of the trouble.
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After all, I am here,
what else can I say?
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It has been beautiful,
interesting and
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it has changed my
image of this place.
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Coming here was worth
all the trouble.
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I guess the biggest challenge
for people crossing
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the Darién Gap has been taking
some motor vehicles with them.
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That's what makes it complicated
because there are no roads,
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just walking pathways.
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It is OK to walk, but
if you want to drive
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your car, it might get hard.
Yes.
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Even from Capurganá to Panama,
think about driving there.
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In the mud and over the hills,
it's just jungle.
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Thanks a lot!
You are welcome.
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Crossing the Darién Gap
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Interviewees: Magnolia, 41, Peru.
Markus, 44, Switzerland.
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Music: Jungle Boys, Bach,
Grieg, and Santeri
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Maps: 2D © OpenStreetMap contributors.
3D by NASA
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Production
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Päivi & Santeri, 2013
PaiviSanteri@GMail.com
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